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 Post subject: 6 Places That Flash Doesn't Belong
New postPosted: Mon May 05, 2008 6:18 pm 
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1. Website Intros
Let's get the obvious out of the way. Websites exist for their visitors, not the other way around. I see almost no use ever for a Flash intro (or really, any website intro), unless your website strategy includes annoying visitors and wasting other people's time. This isn't to say that you shouldn't have a decent preloader or a smooth transition into your site, but anything more than a second or two of Flash before the actual site is a bad idea.

2. Sites with SEO Objectives
Although it's possible to get semi-decent SEO rankings in certain situations for a Flash site, you're just not going to achieve the kind of SEO success for a Flash site that you can for an HTML equivalent. Granted, SEO isn't an easy game to play even if you don't use Flash (see our SEO tutorial), but if your website strategy has any SEO expectations, stay away from it.

3. Menus/Navigation on an HTML Site
Menus have a singular and key function on every website -- to get visitors quickly to the content they want. The words "pretty," "cool," or "smooth" should never be in the same league as "accessible" when it comes to navigation. A Flash menu runs the risk of leaving many users stranded (not everyone has Flash, including an increasing user base that surfs with mobile devices). Furthermore, search engines won't get around too well on a website that lacks true links for its menus. And if you really can't live without the "cool" menus, there are more than enough DHTML/Javascript based menus that can transform simple list tags into great looking navigation systems.

4. Informational/Content Sites
A couple years ago, I did a website for a large church organization that had dozens of menu items and many pages of content per menu item. They insisted on a Flash site where you never had to use the browser scroll, and at the same time, it should look just like an HTML site (which of course, begs the question, "Why are we using Flash?"). Needless to say, they ended up with a very cumbersome website that costs much more than an HTML site, both to build and maintain. Furthermore, visitors complained about the site usability, preferring even a simple text-only site where they could actually get the information they wanted. In general, you'd be surprised how often a visitor will take information accessibility over a great-looking Flash one. If your website's primary purpose is delivering informational content, avoid Flash.

5. E-Commerce
Anyone who has followed the development of the Flash platform will concede that it has come a long way in terms of functionality and programmatic flexibility. With the advent of Flex, Flash is more equipped for application-type usage than ever before. There are even some really great-looking examples of stores built on Flex. However, I think Flash for e-commerce should still be avoided for two primary reasons:

a) Flash stores can still be pretty complex. Your typical HTML e-commerce site is straight-forward with a catalogue, account, and checkout system, all of which can be edited and modified independently with relative ease. Although a Flash store will have the same basic components, you're still dealing with a platform with more integrative complexity and less room for error. In the last few months, I've come across two websites that have attempted to implement a Flash e-commerce solution. On both, I managed to somehow find a weird functionality bug, and having lost confidence in the site, went elsewhere for my purchase. So unless you have a great Flash developer and a solid understanding of consumer UI, stick to non-Flash e-commerce for now.

b) E-commerce conventions are very powerful. For the last decade, online shoppers have become accustomed to how e-commerce sites work. Any great derivation from what they're used to will often result in lower ROI. Although some Flash carts look really snazzy and have more functionality than their HTML counterparts, the proof is always in the customer conversion rate. And having worked on and seen sites that have attempted both types of carts, even "ugly" HTML e-commerce sites will often outperform Flash carts. Online consumers are used to clicking on items, not dragging items to a "cart section." They want to click "Add to Cart" and "Checkout" and go from page to page. Sure, this may change in the coming years, and yes, innovation is a good thing, but e-commerce conventions still hold too strong a sway to go with Flash e-commerce just yet.

6. Sites Requiring Heavy Management
Although Flash has a few solid options for content management, if you or your client will be constantly editing a website, Flash can easily become more of a hurdle in keeping it updated. This is mainly because clients always end up wanting to edit more than you tell them is possible. And there are few things worse in a freelancing business than maintaining parts a Flash site for years. If you know a client has high maintenance needs, make sure you address such future issues before even starting the site.

Of course, there are some websites where Flash can be a good choice or at least a "possible" choice. Some such sites include portfolios, promotional sites (movies, product "exploration" sites, etc.), sites with videos or games, and small boutique sites for creative agencies or possibly high-end design products (and even then, it's never a bad idea to have either an intermediary HTML portion or a full-fledged HTML version). Just don't ever forget that every website has a primary purpose, and if Flash doesn't contribute to that, it's probably a detriment and a liability.


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New postPosted: Tue May 06, 2008 5:59 am 
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Indeed, I accept flash only on about -game/movie sites and only when its a small of graphic somewhere just for kicks. But if the site is mainly build out of flash ... I doubt I will be there for to long.


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New postPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 8:24 am 
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sooo true

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New postPosted: Wed May 07, 2008 1:33 pm 
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Seraphim wrote:
Indeed, I accept flash only on about -game/movie sites and only when its a small of graphic somewhere just for kicks. But if the site is mainly build out of flash ... I doubt I will be there for to long.

I think a Flash-only site would turn a lot of people away.


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New postPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 1:58 pm 
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like me, i hate flash, even flash games suck

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New postPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:44 pm 
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Not all of them. Look into the japanese game, Chaos Theory.

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New postPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 2:52 pm 
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*eyes bobwrits suspiciously* ok...

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New postPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 3:01 pm 
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It's a fun game. There's all these blue dots that fly up into the air, and then fall down. The point is to click and start an explosive chain reaction to destroy all the blue dots.

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New postPosted: Fri Jun 06, 2008 5:32 pm 
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...... that sounds,...................*creepy tone* 'interesting'

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New postPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 11:01 am 
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It's fun.

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New postPosted: Sat Jun 07, 2008 1:28 pm 
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ill have to try it, as soon as my other computer is partitioned
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New postPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2008 10:49 am 
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Here's the link: <a href="http://www.andkon.com/arcade/other/chaostheory/">click</a>

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New postPosted: Tue Jun 17, 2008 6:45 pm 
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BLOCKERD

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New postPosted: Wed Jun 18, 2008 5:12 am 
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I love that game ^_^ Man, its one of the most fun games I've seen.


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New postPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:16 pm 
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Yeah...

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New postPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2008 12:30 pm 
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have u played the one where u have to run away with your cursor from a little man?


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Nope.

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Um...

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New postPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2008 3:35 pm 
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ive played it , it gets really hard >.<

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Chaos Theory's fun.

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